Sunday, April 22, 2007

Sarkozy and Royal win?

Belga News Agency is reporting that UMP candidate Nicolas Sarkozy and Socialist candidate Segolene Royal will be in the presidential runoff. No exact numbers yet.

You can see updates of the results at top right. I'm not going to publish them as posts right now because some of these may be agglomerated on French sites.

92 comments:

Madmax said...

As french, i can't have a connection on the rtbf's site.
Strange, isn't it?

Boz said...

Heh, let's hope French regulators aren't learning from their internet counterparts in China.

Boz

Dorian said...

me too i can't get any connection on rtbf site , i am french too.
But I hope Royal will not win today !

enigmatikmike said...

We're sorry, but the application is temporarily out of resources.


Apparently tsr.ch has been swamped by people eager to know the surveys.

matt said...

impossible acces to belgian websites from France.... poor democracy...

Dorian said...

I get this error on rtbf site :

Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage

Dorian said...

it is a so-called democraty

Madmax said...

i think they don't want any spoilers.
Aaah the admnistration ^^

Boz said...

I guess I now have at least one good reason to be stuck in the US...clear internet. However, I've been trying to get to lesoir.be and it's been hung up all morning (here).

enigmatikmike said...

Yes it is quite sad. Governments have always wanted to impose national borders on the Internet, and sometimes the temptation is just too strong...

matt said...

sarko --> % 26 to 30
sego--> %24 to 27
bayrou --> % 16 to 20

Madmax said...

Remember, in 2002, survey's are wrong, so why not in 2007 ^^.

Nick said...

HI,
I can't access Belgian or swiss sites from the UK.

matt said...

numbers i gave were not a survey... 8-)

Tatanka said...

Let's not be paranoid... Maybe those websites are just overworked...
What's the point anyway? Not knowing the first estimates won't make me vote for Sarko!

piktor said...

I found this site on Reuters but can't get in, probably swamped:

http://www.jeanmarcmorandini.com

He is a rogue journalist that said would publish unofficial results before 8 PM in his blog

Celine said...

me two, very strange!! lesoir, and a lot of them, swiss ones two...
even lecho.be

tom said...

To Boz :
The Guardian confirmed : http://www.guardian.co.uk/france/story/0,,2063145,00.html
And a poll from a suiss newspaper :
http://www.letemps.ch/

Jérémie said...

I'm living in france and it is impossible to access belgian websites from here or Spain and Great Britain according to friends living there.

Boz said...

Piktor, I believe that blogger backed down the other day and decided not to publish. I wonder if the 75,000 euros fine had something to do with it...

enigmatikmike said...

Amazing how many sites are swamped. There's a lot of interest in this election from various parts of the world. Should be reassuring to the French that their country is still considered important.

Btw I'm copying the results shown here onto my blog (obviously giving credit). Any problems with that?

Tatanka said...

Morandini is as swamped as the other websites, there are just millions of us trying to get the results before 8.00p.m....

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burma said...

hi there

i'm french and have full access to the site ...Belgian paper site "le soir" is not available though ... it's such a pity to believe i might vote according to some estimates i don't know anything about ! sometimes our authorities regard us as children ...which we are, true ;-(

Should Sarkozy and Royal go to the second round, this would confirm most of polls we've had for weeks (mind that, could we have reliable polling institutes now ?)

whatever the results, the good news is the record high number of voters (my station was teeming with people this morning some 15 minutes after opening hour); it's a strong feeling to see that people are not that disinterested in politics as they were reported to be by media

Burma from paris XV

Julien said...

Resultats officiels :

Sarko
Sego
Le Pen (18%)
Bayrou

Roger Buyt said...

Living in Belgium, I can't access to rtbf site either. Too much traffic. Don't be so paranoid, guys...

vincelf said...

even from Montreal(Canada) we cannot ... so don't think anything wrong. Servers cannot handle unlimited request at the same time, there is nothing strange in that. But just be patient !!! Waiting few minutes for the "official" result will not make any differences.

exodus said...

estimation présidentielle

SELON SOURCE ASSEZ FIABLE

sarkozy 25%
royal 23%

par une personne travaillant sur un plateau télé français

Tatanka said...

Aaah... someone's being reasonable!

tom said...

The times : http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article1689536.ece

Tatanka said...

I mean Roger and Vincelf are being reasonable... Not the French voters!

Julien said...

Sarkozy and Royal are on the second round. Le Pen is third with around 18% of the poll. Bayrou is fourth

Boz said...

You'd think they'd plan for the overcapacity, especially considering the artificially imposed competitive advantage all these foreign sites have.

tom said...

Obviously, it does not display properly.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
tol/news/world/europe/article1689536.ece

exodus said...

SARKOZY 25%
ROYAL 23%



From someone who's working in french TV

Nick said...

Sarkozy 30.3
royal 2.8

exodus said...

please give source of information

Boz said...

Thanks for the info Exodus although I'm not going to post it just because of the nature of the source. Would you mind telling what news agency, just out of curiosity?

Julien said...

friend from tv

Ange said...

Belgian and Swiss sites are to be overbooked, therefore nothing to have with democracy ! but technology !!!!

piktor said...

Boz, an Ipsos exit poll gives Sarko 28% Royal 25% :

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article1689936.ece

breizh said...

you can access Belgium sites and the latest estimates via Flemish site like www.vrtnieuws.net
...those are completely from access

Aida said...

i was able to access morandini's website once...it's just very busy.

exodus said...

okay each source give the same results


sarkozy and royal will be in second round


toutes les sources donnent les meme résultats

SARKOZY ET ROYAL SONT AU SECOND TOUR

(meme le journaliste a la télé dit que les 2 candidats ne peuvent pas etre ratrappé)

David said...

Hi, I'm French. I've found some results on www.letemps.ch :
1 - Sarkozy : 30.0%
2 - Royal : 25.5%
3 - Bayrou : 19%
4 - Le Pen : 11%

Sounds good... ;o))

piktor said...

The URL again:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/
news/world/article1689936.ece

Boz said...

I adjusted them on the board, thanks.

Boz said...

Yep piktor, it's up. Too bad they didn't give the other numbers yet, the more the merrier.

Aida said...

moranidini's latest announcements:
L'actualité des élections en direct

19h16: Les télé Belges viennent d'annoncer les deux finalistes présents au second tour.
19h09:Toutes les rédactions et ceux qui ont pu accéder aux sites étrangers connaissent les 2 finalistes
18h45: Tous les sondeurs viennent de donner leurs estimations aux chaînes de télé. Les estimations varient entre 2 et 3 points selon les sondeurs, mais l'ordre est le même partout.
18h46: Les sites Belges et Suisses quasiment tous inaccesibles pour cause de surcharge.
18h31: Plus de 80.000 personnes tentent de se connecter au même moment sur ce blog en 10 minutes. Nos serveurs ne tiennent pas le choc !
18h01: Les premiers chiffres arrivent de façon plus sérieuse. Il n'y aura visiblement aucun suspens dans la soirée...
17h28: Le blog a du mal à tenir le choc ! Plus de 150.000 visiteurs uniques à 16h
17h00: 73,87% des électeurs avaient déjà voté à 17h en métropole, pour le premier tour. Les sondeurs tablent sur un taux final dépassant les 85%.Ce taux est nettement supérieur à ceux enregistrés à la même heure au premier tour lors des présidentielles de 1995 (64%), de 1988 (69,1%) et de 1981 (66,2%).
15h28: Un élu d'Ile-de-France dépose un recours devant le Conseil constitutionnel contre le vote électronique
15h02: Projection. A partir des résultats à l'étranger, des projections viennent d'être réalisées.
12h23: Taux de participation à midi en France métropolitaine pour le 1er tour de la présidentielle : 31,21 % soit et dix points de plus qu'en 2002. Il s'agit de la plus forte depuis 1981.


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Dorian said...

anybody but royal!

Tatanka said...

Anybody but Sarko...

Boz said...

Let's just agree: anyone but Le Pen.

Tatanka said...

Right-oh!

Aida said...

anybody but sarko....the fascist....

Albertine said...

You can go on www.letemps.ch which has launched a temporary index with estimated results.

At the time :

Sarkozy 30

Royal 25.5

Bayrou 19

Le Pen 11

I don't think we're censured but only the broadband of belgian websites is overwhelmed.

Very best.

exodus said...

comment les gens peuvent ils vouloir de sarkozy, comment faire confiance a un homme qui n'a pas confiance en lui , qui se tiens sur la pointe des pieds pour parler a la foule. sont gouvernement a supprimé 5000 postes dans l'education nationale, mais lui propose de réduire le nombre d'éléves par classe, ni a t il pas une contradiction ???

Tatanka said...

Ben si...

Aida said...

superbement dit exodus!

enigmatikmike said...

I'd tend to choose Sarko

exodus said...

je n'aime pas plus ségolene, mais il va falloir voter massivement pour elle, afin de barrer la route a se mini le pen

Tatanka said...

Well, no offence intended, but I'm glad you're not French... You might well get your wish on the 6th of May, though.

Tatanka said...

Talking to Mike... Sorry Exodus, that was not for you!

enigmatikmike said...

Hehe Tatanka, none taken. Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion.

If on the 6th the French decide to choose the communist Royal (and thus ensure French economy will not improve), then your opinion will have been proved the most popular.

:)

Dorian said...

les infos vous disent de vous jeter d un immeuble vous le faite, ils vous disent aue sarko est un mini le pen vous les croyez? et ben les francais sont bien des brebis agaree lol surtout les gauchistes! Si sego passe j me casse de la france,car ca ne serviera a rien de travailler avec la gauche o pouvoir et vive la manipulation des medias (qui sont majoritairement a gauche), ca me fait peur segolaine plus aue le pen pour etre franc

Albertine said...

Royal is not communist at all ! Sarkozy will prove to be dangerous.

Aida said...

les medias a gauche???? tf1 a mene campagne pour sarkozy depuis des mois!!! la seule chaine francaise a l'avoir descendu en fleche est Canal +.
on a pas besoin des medias, il n'y qu'a le regarder parler, ecouter ce qu'il dit pour savoir ce qu'il represente. les gens de droite seront desesperants...au moins, on reconnait qd un de nos candidats ne vaut pas la peine...on se ments pas et on utilise pas des betises et des mensonges pour defendre notre ideologie.

Julien said...

Dorian, tu as tout a fait raison. Il est clair que TF1 ne soutiens pas du tout Sarkozy. De meme que Sarko n'a jamais fait virer de redac en chef de Paris match, ni menace la direction de France 3.

enigmatikmike said...

The EU does not need another Socialist leader. What it needs is a strong France that is ready to get back on its feet and galvanise the EU to greater glories (hehe). I understand that some of Sarko's comments were imprudent but his populist streaks will be turned down once he's (hopefully) in power.

Dorian said...

lol attendais de voir les socialist au pouvoir a nouveau si les journaux ne son pa manipule, ce sont les pires pour ca les socialist , ex : miterran et Jospin, Segolee la fausse ca va etre pire ! la maitresse d ecole va punir les mauvais eleves !

Tatanka said...

enigmatikmike: I like irony, too ;-))...
But I must say I don't like Royal a lot, either. And as for her being a communist... oh, my! You really think so??

Celine said...

et oui dorian : la France tu l'aimes ou tu la quittes!!!ça vaut aussi pour les mecs de droite!
Va retrouver les copains de sarko en suisse si tu le peux!

Dorian said...

puis c 3 exemples sur des plusieurs medias francais , wouwa ca fait la majorite ca oui Sarko est un fascite il y a que quelques redactions qui les soutiens et on en fait une generalite LOL !!!!

enigmatikmike said...

Maybe I'm just paranoid Tatanka, and see communists everywhere. However all her talk of state intervention and state doing this and that (whilst very French ;) ) worryingly paints a picture of a leader controlled by Communist instincts, if not politics.

Dorian said...

mdr les prejuges j sui d aucun parti g vote blanc mais segolene me fais peur c tout

Celine said...

"The EU does not need another Socialist leader..."
Why are you so sure of what EU needs?

enigmatikmike said...

Celine, as an EU member too am I not entitled to at least that opinion?

Julien said...

Dorian > J'ai eu la meme discussion avec un gars qui avait des arguments aussi concis, precis, et interessant. C'etait en 2002, avec un electeur FN......

Tatanka said...

enigmatikmike: "very French" ;-), yes, you're probably right here. But I don't see Royal becoming a Red Menace once elected. She pretty much CHOSE the left over the right for TACTICAL reasons when she was in school. She's just saying the right thing to get elected, and she'll do whatever it is she really believes in once elected. She's not a left-wing politician in my - modest - opinion.

enigmatikmike said...

Hopefully you are right. :)

Dorian said...

mdr encore des prjuge , y a aucun candidat ki me correspond j ai vote blanc c tout me sui pa abstenu c deja ca. Parcke g di ke Le pen me faisait pa peur alors j sui un partisant du FN et fasciste mais arreter avec vos idees recus !

Dorian said...

pour le arguments aussi concis precis etc... c parcke j ai 25 ans et ke depuis mes 14 ans je suis passionne par la polotique

Celine said...

YOU THINK that EU needs...Maybe you're wrong. A strong France does it automaticly means chicken Little for president?

Boz said...

Thanks for all the info and comments guys (and gals). I hope you stay around the next two weeks, but if not, be sure to come back to help find out the final vote on May 6.

Boz

Tatanka said...

Thanks for your blog, Boz: it was the only source of info I was able to access. Good evening!

Celine said...

She's not a left-wing politician in my - modest - opinion? And thats unfortunetly right in my also modest opinion.... I'm agree

Tatanka said...

Oui, c'est bien là où est le problème, Céline, plutôt que dans une "menace communiste"! Menfin, là, on ne va pas avoir le choix...

Tatanka said...

Oooh, j'entends les "jeunes populaires" scander "Sarko président" depuis ma fenêtre... Je vais mettre un CD, moi, j'vous quitte!

enigmatikmike said...

Thank you Boz. Very well run. And I really enjoyed the discussion here in the comments. Have a Good day! (for you, evening for me)

Celine said...

Good blog! it's true. Thank you for it. Good news and sources.
I'll be back the 6th of May
Bye.

enigmatikmike said...

Bonne nuit tatanka, celine. We'll continue this discussion another time. ;)

Tatanka said...

Sure thing! See ya on the 6th, if not earlier. I've had a look at your blog... Gosh, you really DO like the little...er, "man" ;-))

enigmatikmike said...

I may have exaggerated on the pictures a bit. *blush* I'm not that great a supporter as the post would lead one to believe.